tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post8724394558322523522..comments2024-02-28T01:11:56.474-08:00Comments on THE LAND OF NOD: The Temptations of KickstarterJohn Matthew Staterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02310914386482078369noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-33712136617995715582014-01-12T22:25:11.920-08:002014-01-12T22:25:11.920-08:00Good points - food for thought.Good points - food for thought.John Matthew Staterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310914386482078369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-37245175428233085382014-01-12T22:25:10.530-08:002014-01-12T22:25:10.530-08:00Good points - food for thought.Good points - food for thought.John Matthew Staterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310914386482078369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-44837410609452295842014-01-12T22:25:08.254-08:002014-01-12T22:25:08.254-08:00Good points - food for thought.Good points - food for thought.John Matthew Staterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310914386482078369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-27783953401390618352014-01-12T21:40:58.864-08:002014-01-12T21:40:58.864-08:00I'd fund KS for art with free pdf in exchange ...I'd fund KS for art with free pdf in exchange and me buying my own HC later if I liked.Pulp Herbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486803457210325703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-81609551658479269702014-01-12T21:39:13.890-08:002014-01-12T21:39:13.890-08:00This is what I was going to write. You've wri...This is what I was going to write. You've written the text so now you want money for the art.<br /><br />I'm down with the KS for that. It meets my make or break anymore for a KS: finished text.<br /><br /><i> The trick to be successful on Kickstarter, though, is in the premiums. </i><br /><br />Here I fundamentally disagree. The trick to a successful KS, defined as ships reasonably onPulp Herbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486803457210325703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-82936374471820350932014-01-10T06:34:47.961-08:002014-01-10T06:34:47.961-08:00I think the trouble you're going to have if yo...I think the trouble you're going to have if you go down the Kickstarter route is how much to charge for a printed copy of your books. At the moment, I'm guessing you only charge only a little over cost as they are very reasonably priced but if you go the Kickstarter route and you want to cover printing costs, shipping costs and make some money for art then you will have to charge more Mallius Vanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017597212038657943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-39102375216848743012014-01-10T06:32:19.079-08:002014-01-10T06:32:19.079-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mallius Vanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017597212038657943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-89399787534802105382014-01-09T18:55:46.972-08:002014-01-09T18:55:46.972-08:00I would consider the idea of trade if you haven...I would consider the idea of trade if you haven't got the $. The reason being that the retail value of the books versus what you yourself could buy them for and give them to the artists would save you some money I suppose. It seems from what you say though that you don't make too much per book. I expect that's Lulu for you. If you didn't need variety of binding types, CreateSpace Perpetual Rolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01329782325401479458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-77345209269649269852014-01-09T13:20:28.883-08:002014-01-09T13:20:28.883-08:00I essentially agree with Joshua, but I am suspicio...I essentially agree with Joshua, but I am suspicious of kickstarters - I think it's often seen as a way of circumventing all the hard work that goes into just producing something for the love of it. And I tend to think that the labour of love that is creating art for free always has the potential to forge something special, which kickstarter works against. noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-21427723314757381002014-01-09T13:17:30.241-08:002014-01-09T13:17:30.241-08:00I would like to do some art! Consider my online ga...I would like to do some art! Consider my online gallery of samples.<br /><br />http://kaprou.deviantart.com/Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06463222600747737190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-84012916726395880872014-01-09T12:29:06.261-08:002014-01-09T12:29:06.261-08:00What I would really love is to see someone do a Ki...What I would really love is to see someone do a Kickstarter like the Sin Nomine guy did with Spears of the Dawn - he did one to pay for art which he could put into public domain Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06440605975564288373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-64059409915329807592014-01-09T11:16:16.524-08:002014-01-09T11:16:16.524-08:00Yeah with a monster book a KS is ideal. Finish, co...Yeah with a monster book a KS is ideal. Finish, complete apart from layout and art, the book. And launch a KS for just the art, I guess your create juices won;t matter so much if it is done and only art work needed! Maybe talk/contact Joseph Bloch of adventures Dark and Deep who did a KS for his Monster Manual. I worked well and made the product that much cooler.<br />Good luck!Machpantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12114919601773907620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8653301951574738973.post-63906876852273015142014-01-09T10:27:29.873-08:002014-01-09T10:27:29.873-08:00My take on it is nobody should even launch a Kicks...My take on it is nobody should even launch a Kickstarter unless they have a finished product (maybe minus the artwork, or with placeholder art that they're hoping to upgrade) and they just need the funds to get it printed. There's just too much stuff that can go wrong otherwise, and losing enthusiasm is just one of those things.Joshua Macyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838733328132877699noreply@blogger.com